Five Myths Indians Have On Kashmir

By Maria Syed

In the last decade, the voices claiming Kashmir as an integral part of India have not only grown shriller, but more pervasive too. It should, however, not come as a shocker as a country that aspires to become a superpower is supposed to be more assertive in terms of wielding its authority and power in the region.

Photograph by Abid Bhat

Photograph by Abid Bhat

But Kashmir, even according to India’s constitution is a ‘disputed territory’ and the more than two-decade-old bloody conflict in the region has so far claimed at least 70, 000 human lives, including civilians, Kashmiri and foreign militants and government forces.

Just as we can’t deny that Kashmiris have a right to choose their future as promised when the state temporarily acceded to the Indian Union, we can’t gloss over the fact that people in the rest of India are growing more vocal against any sort of secession.

While the unfamiliarity of majority of Indians vis-à-vis Kashmir issue can’t be neglected, a major chunk, despite being aware of the legitimate rights of its people, are playing deliberate dumbs because of their ultra-nationalism.

In this article, we have highlighted five major myths of Indians regarding the Kashmir issue. The reasons, among others, are lack of knowledge about the events that led to the accession of the state with Indian Union and the geo-political events across the world in the last decade or so.

Indians can’t buy land in Kashmir because of Article 370

There is nothing new in the law that restricts Indians from buying land in Jammu and Kashmir. In fact, the provision is rooted in the state’s history. Just like there are laws that restrict Indians from buying land in Himachal Pradesh, Arunachal Pradesh, Nagaland and Andaman and Nicobar Islands, Kashmir too, since its days of Dogra king, has such laws called the State Subject Laws.

“That is an old rule coming on, not a new thing, and I think that it is a very good rule which should continue, because Kashmir is such a delectable place that moneyed people will buy up all the land there to the misfortune of the people who live there; that is the real reason and that reason has applied ever since British times and for one hundred years or more,” Nehru told Indian parliamentarians in the Lok Sabha.

There are people, mostly ultra-nationalists like the RSS and the BJP, claiming that Kashmir is not witnessing a growth and a boom in job market because industrialists can’t buy land there. To ensure that the provision doesn’t hamper the growth, the state allows industrialists and investors to rent land, as much as they need, on a 90-year lease.

Also, because of Article 370, the Government of J&K carried out massive land reforms in 1950 – making it an inclusive economy. Because of these reforms, the households living below poverty line in the state is a meager 3 per cent as against 26 per cent in the rest of India.

Kashmiris are happy with India. It is just Pakistan creating a turmoil in the state

Pakistan, which is an important party to Kashmir dispute, has undoubtedly been providing moral and diplomatic support to Kashmir’s freedom struggle since its inception in late ’80s. Even if it doesn’t admit, its military trained thousands of Kashmiri militants – both nationalistic and pro-Pakistan – and provided them with ammunition to fight Indian forces.

Majority of Kashmiris, roughly between 75 per cent and 95 per cent in the valley, according to a poll conducted by London-based Chatham House in 2010, supported Kashmir’s freedom from both India and Pakistan.

Muslims attacked Kashmiri Pandits in early 90s and forced them out of the valley

True that Kashmiri Pandits left the valley out of fear as the armed revolt began against the Indian rule. But before blaming the Muslims, a majority in the valley, we need to take a holistic view of the circumstances at that time. There was no civil society, government machinery had collapsed and the state was under President’s rule, represented by governor Jagmohan.

Saadut, a Kashmir blogger writes: “While most of these killings happened after January of 1990, there has been no plausible reason given to why most of the Pandits fled on the night of 19 January 1990. The only coincidences close to this date are joining of Jagmohan as governor of J&K one day prior and the repeated massacres by Indian forces right after 19 January. Sadly many facts in India have been twisted to create a demonic image of every Kashmir Muslim, blaming them for every crime of this conflict.

“Sample this ‘(all pundits) will remember the night of January 19 — the night when their Muslim neighbours, friends and colleagues turned against them. The night when they kept awake all night, as frenzied mobs on the streets and inside mosques called for their extermination.’ (The Hindu 20th January 2014, There Are No Goodbyes). This claim aims to make you believe that on the night of 19th January 1990 Pandits houses were surrounded by hostile and ‘blood seeking’ Muslims, resulting in their migration. How would it be possible, under unrelenting curfew from 17th January itself with shoot at sight orders, Muslims managed to assemble and surround Pandit habitations on the night of 19 January, and then within minutes of this Pandits managed to pack their belongings, seek friendly passage from ‘this hostile crowd’, call up state run SRTC and then drive away under armed escort’? Logic and reason surely fail here.

“As protests kept swelling, Muslims believed ‘Azadi’ was just round the corner while Pandits got scared by the sheer quantum of this rebellion. It was this fear in Pandits that many agencies (including some armed men) exploited for own interests. While most Pandits from Srinagar, already under a fear psychosis, were escorted in state buses on 19th January curfewed night, right after Jagmohan had taken over, Pandits from rural areas migrated in later months and years, trailing the exodus trend in fright and scare.

“Most Pandit killings (219 killed in 20 years) happened after later part of 1990 while the repetitive massacres right after 19 January.  Gaw Kadal massacre happened one day after 19th January (on 21st Jan 1990, 52 killed and more than 250 critically injured), the Alamgari Bazar massacre on 22nd January 1990 (killing 10 civilians and fatally injuring scores), the Handwara massacre on 25th January 1990 (killing 25 civilians and critically injuring dozens others). The list of such massacres by Indian forces seems unending while the reasons of 19th exodus strangely linking to their occurrence.

“Credence to this also comes from other statements; Jagmohan in an interview to Current, May 1990, “Every Muslim in Kashmir is a militant today. All of them are for secession from India. I am scuttling Srinagar Doordarshan’s programmes because everyone there is a militant… The bullet is the only solution for Kashmir. Unless the militants are fully wiped out, normalcy can’t return to the Valley.”Wajahat Habibullah recalling how Muslim groups appealed to the Governor (via Habibullah) to stop Pandits from leaving, his suggestion to Governor Jagmohan about a television (and radio) broadcast of requests from hundreds of Muslims to their Pandit neighbors not to leave Kashmir, being rejected by Jagmohan.

“On the contrary Jagmohan announcing that ‘the Government cannot guarantee any safety of Pandits….if Pandits decided to leave, refugee settlement camps had been set up for them and also that departing civil servants among the Pandits would continue to be paid their salaries’. The state was clearly pushing for an exodus.”

More details here: http://www.saadut.com/2014_01_19_archive.html

Had the people in Kashmir, both Muslims and non-Muslims, not lived in harmony, then the region wouldn’t have been calm when whole of the India was burning in the run up to the partition of the sub-continent. Even when Hindus in Jammu – just 300 km from Srinagar, massacred at least three lakh Muslims in 1947 during the past Partition inter-religious violence, not a single person from the minority Hindu community was harmed in the valley. Historians have called it an act of ethnic cleansing of Muslims in Jammu region.

On August 10, 1948, The Times (London) published a report [‘Elimination of Muslims from Jammu’, Part II, 10th August 1948, p. 5] by “A Special Correspondent”, saying “2,37,000 Muslims were systematically exterminated – unless they escaped to Pakistan along the border – by all the forces of the Dogra State, headed by the Maharaja in person and aided by Hindus and Sikhs.

Article 370 breeds more separatism in Kashmir

The article has acted like a bridge between J&K and the Government of India since the state’s fleeing Maharaja ‘conditionally’ acceded to the Indian Union. According to the Instrument of accession, Indian government was only responsible for Jammu and Kashmir’s “Foreign Affairs, Defence, Communication and ancillary matters”. However, the article, which has been eroded over the years and is like an eroded shell, according to a commentator, provided India a window to apply its laws to the state.

Till the article, even in this form, isn’t untouched, people in the state feel they have still something to cling to, but the day it is abrogated, it would prove counter productive and add to the alienation in the state.

“The separatists, on the other hand, would love to see the constitutional arrangement be scrapped because Kashmir in their view would then “become a clear Indian military occupation” without a “legal instrument” guiding its relationship with the Indian Union,” writes Parvaiz Bukhari, a Srinagar journalist.

Indian forces are saviours of Kashmiris

In my discussions with a cross section of Indian youths, including the supposedly educated ones, I have been always stoned with lines: ‘Indian Army protects you’, ‘They sacrifice their lives for your safety’, etc. Undoubtedly, these men, including young, educated officers and 8th or 10th pass foot soldiers, sacrifice their lives for their country. Whatever their motivation of joining the army or paramilitary forces, for a Kashmiri they are part of an occupying force. Nobody would expect a mother who has lost her young son to the bullet of an Indian soldier to see him as a protector. And there are thousands of such mothers in Kashmir, who are silently suffering in the confines of their homes.

Maria Syed is a journalism graduate in Kashmir.

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114 Comments

  1. Lawsford Lawliet said:

    Well just as I expected each and every one here thinks that religion and ethnicity is the cause of turmoil in the Kashmir region but if one deeply thinks about it it’s all about water security without that water flowing down from the Jammu Kashmir region there would be sheer famine. Pakistan and India both want to be safe in terms of water and hence India wanted Kashmir which it got during 1947 but Pakistan too wanting to contol the regions water and potential labor waged war which they lost then they resorted to religious stuff so as to manipulate people for their cause. Hope Kashmiri people understand my point. Moreover if I was a Kashmiri leader I would have asked for an autonomous status with India as it would be better for Kashmir. If by any chance someone with considerable IQ reads my comment he/she Will instantaneously understand my point.

    Just to make sure I would like to make it clear that I’m neutral on Kashmir issue and my analysis is based on facts. I really Don’t care what Kashmiris choose to do but I’ll recommend a two state one nation association with India will play out to your benefit.

    I Hope all people here will understand my view Thank You

  2. Muthu said:

    This article is a Theo fascist rant not meaningful analysis. How do I say this? Just by the questioning of so called conspiracy of Pandits expulsion …their leaving the home of 1000s of years is not a vacation to Disneyland and if they left all that in one night then it means there is a rant against them

  3. atish dubey said:

    Ok!

    Lets consider that India will leave Kashmir Valley and help them to form a nation.
    What next?
    Total area of Kashmir Valley is 15,948 Km Sq.
    Approx. population 7 Million
    We don’t have bifurcation but J&K generates total gross revenue of $73 Million and get’s $812 million from Delhi. So let’s give entire revenue generated by J&K to Kashmir valley and remove Delhi support.

    Now we can easily assume what is going to happen:-

    1- At first stage per person income is drastically going to drop to 10 times. Taxes collected by government will not be sufficient to give salary to their employees. Government will have to raise taxes and Import & Export duties. Raise in Taxes will increase cost of goods and will affect export of goods.
    2- As government will not be having sufficient fund to prevent fruits and other eatable products. Farmers will start suffering losses. Suppose even if government manages that, where will they sale products-> INDIA?
    Right India is the only place where they can sale products as Airways will be very expensive for export of fruits and Kashmir Valley is lose connected land. Even currently existing roadways need lot of maintenance to be operation due to climate.
    3- Kashmir will have only 2 option left, to open trade route with India or Pakistan, if opened with Pakistan then infiltration will start and at such a poor stage Kashmir will become hub of Drugs products. If connected with India, Indian government will not consider Kashmir as their citizen as they do now but will take it as business opportunity and start buying products at half the price and procure it and on time will export it to world.(India have sufficient warehouse and product procuring capability)
    4- Kashmiries will have to leave their land and move to other nations for better opportunities and unfortunately then they would not even get reservation that they get currently.

    So if Kashmiries want to be free then it’s good for India as less soldiers will die, 12% of total budget that just go for welfare of Kashmiries will be saved and can be utilized for region like chhattisgara, jharkhand or north east regions. Defense budget will drop more than 60% which if utilized properly can fulfill complete infrastructural need of India within next 5-7 years.

    • Ra. Na. Singh. said:

      Mr dubey.
      Don’t go in to day dreaming.
      Kashmir will go as such.
      Close your balance sheet.

  4. Zuhaib said:

    “What about us?’ — the all time favourite quote of Kashmiri Pandits (dalae batae). Every time the human rights violationc committed by Indian troops in Kashmir are discussed, these Pandits who are reaping the benefits of so called exodus poke their nose and try to claim as if only they suffered. Yes, you people had to move out of the cold environs of the valley, but you should blame Indian govt not Kashmiri Muslims. Oh! why would you blame the Indian government…coz it has blessed you a regular income for which you don’t need to move your arse…and foreign scholarships for your kids. Enjoy.

  5. Abhishek Sharma said:

    bullshit by truckloads no less!!!!
    i will only counter one thing here for the simlie reason that i don’t like to type too much, that is ” the mothers who don’t see Indian Army as their protector is because of 1 reason, that they are blind they not only fail to see the patriotism and heroism and the dedication of the Indian soldiers but also fail to see the unlawful acts of their sons who are involved in stone pelting(for meagre sums of 100-120 rupees) and rioting and some are even involved with terrorist radical groups” hate the ARMY and turn a blind eye towards the illegal activities of your sons. When the a mob throws stones at the army men any one of those stones could easily be a hand grenade army men are trained to eliminate threat that is would they do in Kashmir and everywhere they go.
    You should sometime go pay a visit to the POK and the conditions in which people are forced to live if it were up to them they would come join India in a jiffy.
    and if it weren’t for the Indian Army kashmir would have alread become a part of pakistan and heaven would have turned to hell
    Sorry to say this Kashmiris are the most selfish people ever they want funding and resources from indian government but do not want our involvement in the administration,
    how does that work?????

    • Kashmiri resident said:

      You are simply deluded. You have no idea whats going on here in kashmir. No idea nothing nada null zeroooo. So shut the fuck up moron.

      • migrider said:

        Ohhh so now you have the moral high ground ?
        I haven’t read a more bogus article. Thousands of people still living in Delhi camps rest thousands found home out of Kashmir Valley. And it wasn’t the kashmiri Muslims. Please tell me who will leave his land and run for life if it was not for his life and his family’s life.
        People here in Valley are ungrateful. Fauj tries its level best in name of ap sadbhavna yet people openly support militants. Haha and when it came to floods and help the militants ran away and the Indian Air Force and Army evacuated these people only to realise that they will pelt stones and raise Pakistan flag after 6 months.
        Thank your stars this is no Pakistan or else the amount of fauj in Kashmir is more than enough to take down every guy with a Pakistani flag and every guy throwing stones at soldiers. Instead of being thankful for staying in a democracy like India even the well educated Techos from Bangalore and other places are brain washed.
        And it is no outsider saying all this reading a bunch of shit loaded articles like these I stay here so I know the exact ground reality.

    • Ovais Amin said:

      Where the hell on earth you get this information from. It makes me sick while I see comments like this. So you mean whole Valley is being funded for stone pelting. Who is funding them, your father? You try to potray us as beggars, compare the powerty level of indians and kashmiris, if you have a bit of decency you will hang your head in shame, go and google it and stop being a bitch!

  6. Ritu said:

    What a truck load of bullshit really… now lets see the bigger picture… Jinnah ordered infiltration by Pashtun fighters of the Kashmir valley, partially to secure claims on Kashmir and partially to protect his own sorry self and become the undisputed ruler of Pakistan. Check!

    the Pashtun fighters who then settled in otherwise peaceful valley continued to rape, reproduce and also revolt against Indian government, with the help of Pakistan. You admit to the moral and diplomatic bullshit support of the Pakistan army in this.

    More recently when Kargil happen, Pakistan tried to get China and America on their front, failed, because well we dont like Pakistan, lets say no one in the world like Pakistan of today which is the gutter ground of terrorism. No secret service proof required there, facts speak for itself.

    China mistakenly gave nukes to Pakistan, who is mistakenly going to give nukes to ISIS (oops!) and meanwhile, you think that Kashmir with all its terrorist tendencies (or not) would be allowed to disentangle from India (a peaceful state) and join Pakistan (a monstrous state) or atleast be an Independent territory (a failed state or join ISIS worse even), oh yes why not – dream on !

    This is what is best not just for Kashmir but for the world at large, control belligerency, scrap Art. 370, allow the masses within Kashmir and India to mingle more freely, fall in love (because well Kashmiri people are lovely and so are rest of Indians) get married, produce peaceful babies and create peaceful histories.

    • snake said:

      the point she made about ultranationalism,u fit that picture!and if u indians have always been so peaceful and believed in unity of all mankind,y didnt u produce babies with th brits..you cud have been such a beautiful race,no!she has jus pointed out the misconceptions u pple have abt kashmir and all the lies that u have been fed and based on which u have portrayed this picture of kashmir and kashmiris as a rebel state!it is a country in its own rights and we wud want that status back..and stop comparin everythn with isis and pakistan!that jus goes to show,how biased you are when talkin abt muslim states!isis is a myth and we all know who benefits most from the turmoil in pakistan!

    • Muhammad Maroof said:

      The article was based on facts, yours is only opionion

  7. Avinash said:

    So ‘The Hindu-news paper has made a wrong post in its addition. Shame on those who think that every time they can deceive every one but what about those who are the victims of this massacre.

  8. Athar Gani Athar said:

    “We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. Peace and Freedom will prevail.”
    #FreeKashmir #Azadi #Freedom #GoIndiaGoBack

  9. Athar Gani Athar said:

    InShaAllah freedom shall prevail in kashmir.
    #FreeKashmir

  10. anil said:

    What Your article says is partially true. Kashmiri pandits didn’t left their home willingly but they were forced to do so by kashmiri Muslim community . their women were raped and all over in Kashmir pundits were killed mercilessly. Prosperous kashmiri pundits had no material possess with them when they left Kashmir..about Jammu , I want to clear you that it was kindhearted people of Jammu who provided food and shelter to the home excluded kashmiri pundits and still doing for the flood victims of Kashmir.

    • snake said:

      WRONG AGAIN!did u forget to read the title of the article!

    • Kush Kaul said:

      Please read what you wrote my friend. It’s someone like you whose at the centre of such atrocities.

  11. Kishore said:

    “Zalimo, O Kafiro, Kashmir harmara chod do”.

    (O! Merciless, O! Kafirs leave our Kashmir)

    “Kashmir mein agar rehna hai, Allah-ho-Akbar kahna hoga”

    (Any one wanting to live in Kashmir will have to convert to Islam)

    La Sharqia la gharbia, Islamia! Islamia!

    From East to West, there will be only Islam

    “Musalmano jago, Kafiro bhago”,

    (O! Muslims, Arise, O! Kafirs, scoot)

    “Islam hamara maqsad hai, Quran hamara dastur hai, jehad hamara Rasta hai”

    (Islam is our objective, Q’uran is our constitution, Jehad is our way of our life)

    “Kashmir banega Pakistan”

    (Kashmir will become Pakistan)

    “Kashir banawon Pakistan, Bataw varaie, Batneiw saan”

    (We will turn Kashmir into Pakistan alongwith Kashmiri Pandit women, but without their men folk)

    “Pakistan se kya Rishta? La Ilah-e- Illalah”

    (Islam defines our relationship with Pakistan)

    Dil mein rakho Allah ka khauf; Hath mein rakho Kalashnikov.

    (With fear of Allah ruling your hearts, wield a Kalashnikov)

    “Yahan kya chalega, Nizam-e- Mustafa”

    (We want to be ruled under Shari’ah)

    “People’s League ka kya paigam, Fateh, Azadi aur Islam”

    (“What is the message of People’s League? Victory, Freedom and Islam.”)

    • Kush Kaul said:

      I don’t see many posts saying anything in retaliation to ur post simply because to a great extent it’s true!

    • Teresa Morrisroe said:

      Bull! None of my Kashmiri friends and their families would agree with you! You fool — you are part of the reason Muslims suffer from the hell of discrimination around the world you idiot. Please convert to something else because you don’t know Islam at all.

      • Roy said:

        Muslims suffers because of their stupid religious ideology that Islam is the only way and every one should get converted . I have seen stupid Muslims buffoon who don’t even care when their own neighbors are in need but will demonstrate , stone pelt and shout slogans for peles time for thousand miles away . They need education and that too but in madarssa . This article is a conspiracy theory not based in the facts

  12. Kishore said:

    You are trying to put entire blame on Jagmohan, i know why you are disliking him… In Jammu and Kashmir, Jagmohan is credited for bringing order to one of the most revered shrines of Hindus, called Mata Vaishno Devi. He created a board that continues to provide administration for the shrine. Infrastructure was developed and that continues to facilitate pilgrims. Why the minority treated in indifferent way in Kashmir.. Why this double standards… The militants killed Kashmiri pandits supported by local people.. this is a fact.. don’t put this under carpet by painting it with different color…

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  14. Dalip Wali said:

    @ ; Flease get your facts correct @ Ms Syed .

    1. One can’t buy agriculture land in Himachal , you have generalised it,
    2. State subject came in to force in the than ‘ State of Jammu & Kashmir ‘ by the end of 1920s / early 30s and was not there centuries back n not necessarily for reasons as assigned in the article.

    I am not delving in to other points raised/discussed in the article , not because I subscribe to them or disagree completely but mainly because every one is entitled to his point of view to the dispute.

    Cheers !!

  15. Leena said:

    It is a tragic situation and noone can/should be forced to feel/do things they dont want…but its also an India-Pak issue that is hampering everything for the kashmiris….It would also help the Kashmiris to raise their voice peacefully…violence only begets violence..there is a large percentage of Indians wholly disconnected from kashmir issue,its just too far away..if we all started to care,the RSS etc would not be the only voices heard..no?So articles like this help in spreading information as our Mainstream media has failed to do. it would also help to see all kashmiris united and divided into pundits&muslims&Sikhs…divided you will not get anywhere…Just saying 🙂

  16. KP said:

    Maria,
    I am a KP, and one of those families who fled Kashmir in 1990. While I agree with rest of the points, I do not think there is any possible justification to ‘muslims attacked KP…..’. It is NOT a myth. It is a fact. I do not care what random article links you post to support your statement. I was there! My house was surrounded! My muslim neighbours, who until a few months ago were my best friends, wanted me and my family dead! My aunt was shot dead – leaving behind a 2yr old daughter drenched in a pool of blood. So, please don’t insult our intelligence by calling that a myth. Let’s just accept that we as Kashmiris, screwed up and move on.

      • KP. said:

        I am KP, We were living happily then
        India screwed us…Incorrigible country

        • Neutral said:

          Why do you say that India screwed you over?

          Just curious about your opinions.

  17. Aamir said:

    Hi,
    I must appreciate your efforts you have put in to write this piece.
    well done

  18. fayeq said:

    what has happened with kashmiri pandits cannot be totally blamed on jagmohan. kashmiri muslims were targetted by indian army, brutally murdered, tortured, raped etc. and this did create an animosity amongst kashmiri muslims against kashmiri hindus, and millitants actually exploited this sentiment making pandits as soft targets. but whatever the case, pandits, like muslims in those times, were victims. after their mass migration, in some places their houses were looted or burnt. and this was the outcome of frustations resulting from indian high-handedness and atrocities… but whatever, the fact is that we need to rectify their grudges.. we love them, and wish that they come back, live dignified lives in their houses.
    as far as the question of azadi is concerned, that is a sentiment as lively as our blood. that cannot be supressed, neither vacated. indian people, mostly good, must understand this.

  19. Deepak said:

    What can the solutions be. Even if India and Pakistan give up their fight, can Kashmir become an independent and just society. The political scenario is dumb. It will be like Afghanistan.

  20. Mohammad Salim Wani said:

    Good piece of writing and balanced too, balanced because writer has not put forth the sufferings of majority community (kashmiri Muslims )by the hands of Indian occupation in Kashmir and fanatic Hindus outside.
    PPPP (Pandit Paid Propaganda Party ) will always encounter with these comments, they r few in number but active on social networking channels to create wedge between the communities, people in that community who preferred to stay are more safe n happy than Muslims.
    Regarding army and other uniformed forces they go by the perception of Jagmoham in article that all kashmiris are terrorists/Pakistanis that is why AFPSA has different meanings at different places in state.
    By Indian fanatic Hindus I mean our students and other Kashmiri Muslims are being attacked deadly in India without being heard and later being investigated, latest being that of students murderous attack at GRIMT Yamuna Nagar Haryana and India’s criminal silence over that including that of PPPP.
    PPPP is always looking kashmiris through the prism of Pakistan but how many times we will reiterate that we are looking for freedom from India and Pakistan.

  21. Imran Ahmed said:

    As-salaam-walekum,

    Nice post, just want to say one things its true that Kashmir is most beautiful place. I went there lot of times and find its time to change people need peace and they need a good government that bring peace in there lives, proper education, providing job for youth, better education system more Medical college and Engineering Institute should be open, security for women/girl, better road and better health care. Even they can generate more revenue from tourism.

    To be honest people need peace but some bad person just because of money and selfish just making Kashmir bad. Lot of money is given for the betterment of the state where the money gone? who has taken all the fund and not doing anything, everyone in Kashmir is paying tax where the money is gone just think about it?

    May be you will realize its never be a India or Pakistan its someone else some crap politician which is eating everything and killing innocent people and taking lot of benefit may Allah those crap people will go to hell inshan-allah.

    Its never ending to keep blaming each other, need time to change and stand on one thing to make Kashmir a best place not in India but in the World Inshan-allah one day will come and things will be changed.

  22. Kashmiri said:

    Kashmiri Pandit only form 3% of the total population of Kashmir……they should accept this fact………if they believe in democracy….

  23. Rakesh said:

    The onus is on Kashmiris. They have seen what separatism can bring to their land in the last 25 years. Hence, they should try to go back to their way of life before 1989. Support India and whole of India will support you. There will be no need of AFSPA then. Peace..

    Bottomline: Neither India, nor Pakistan can let you go.. So unfortunately you need to chose one side; can’t take middle path of freedom. Choose a side which is more peaceful. It can’t be a perfect world.. but it can be better.

  24. Sameer said:

    Dear Indians your countries cost of Kashmir occupation is driving force behind sick economic and poor financial indicators, you being the tax payers. Ask Cleary resolution of these illegal occupations, your taxes are going waste. Learn from Americans and other western countries, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan are best examples for you….ask people you vote to sort it out. Even we Kashmiris study/Work at AIMS, IIMS and IITs, but all seek freedom…

  25. Ehsan said:

    Excellent Job Maria. You have supported your comments with logic. If anybody doesnt still agree, i guess he is being too nationalistic

  26. Umar Khan said:

    A very very good article indeed. Highlighting these myths was long overdue. You have a done a really good job explaining the differences with facts. However I believe myth no.5 was cut short abruptly. It could have been elaborated a little cuz among all the myths this is the most important that caused the emotional imbalance between the people of Kashmir and the rest of India in respect of the Indian armed forces.

  27. Sameer said:

    thanks for this great piece of work.
    i really hope that in future i will see more such Articals from you.
    Our Good wishes and Our Prayer is with you.

  28. Wasim Ahmad said:

    I wanted something like this to be presented to rest of Indian citizens. They are innocent in a way that they have been fed wrong information and works like these will show them light. I was just 2 years old in 1990. But I believe We Kashmiri’s are humble at heart and can never do this to our fellow pundit brothers. Even if they were afraid of the rising Islamic movement , if they had stayed , same Islamic principals would have provided them protection. After all the uprising was against India and India just did the divide and rule policy. Just imagine had pundits stayed and unified with fellow kashmiris , where would have india been. I guess at least beyond the Jawahar lal tunnel.

    • Ashok said:

      Dear Wasim, you intentions seem to be noble. You have borne the brunt of terrorism at its peak. I can understand your bitterness against the Indian nation. But after pandits names were put on hit lists in the mosques , we were advised to leave by our neighbors. The loudspeaker s from the mosques asked us to leave the females for them & males were asked to Flee.The great Islamic revolution had begun. Even some Muslims were killed for personal vendetta & called mukhbirs. Their bodies hung from trees & stoned. Kashmir would never be the same. It is not necessay that a religion can bind a country together .Muslims are not happy even in Islamic countries like Pakistan , Afghanistan , Syria, Iran, Iraq , Egypt ,Somalia, Yemen, Nigeria etc etc but they are happyily living in UK, USA , France, Canada , Australia , Germany etc. we need to introspect on this .

      • Naga said:

        you nailed it, Ashok. People need to think if Kashmir can prosper like one of the richest and best country Switzerland, a land locked snow mountainous country like Kashmir.

  29. anuj said:

    why is no one questioning interest of Pakistan in kashmir’s freedom…is it on humanitarian basis..come on…they are not able to provide human rights to their own people why would they be paying so much money and effort for a 3rd country?…are people in pakistan occupied kahmir in better condition than on indian side.. would you mind writing on their condition and sufferings as well…its easy to blame India and hindus for all the suffering of Muslims in this country but isn’t this an easy escape than to look deeper and figure out where are the fundamental problems in you guys??

    kashmir or no kashmir…muslims are india are in much better condition than anywhere else in the world and they will get better if they become more open and join the main stream rather than continue being a political toy and looking for special treatments…hope this makes sense.

  30. Usaid Sheikh Mohammad said:

    I totally agree with you Maria Syed…these are the precise points I try to explain to my friends at DU repeatedly…but they simply don’t get it…’Kashmiris don’t want to be with governed by india’…it’s simply…

  31. Ajaz Ahmad said:

    this is completely wrong information .. you Maria Syed are corrupted . spy of india .

  32. ab qayoom said:

    salute you for the elegant piece of writing, you have infact come out with facts, keep on doing good work we need journalists like you

  33. Aruna said:

    Hi,
    I am Indian, and I agree with almost all the points you’ve mentioned. As one of your commentators pointed out, they are not completely balanced, but when you are attempting to burst myths you cannot be balanced. I agree that the BJP and RSS have made it out as if the inability to buy land clause is hampering development, but there are several other obvious factors why J&K, especially Kashmir is not developed. Indians will not acknowledge that with the army around and riots prevalent, development is a non-sequitor. In any case, if Kashmiris (and a section of liberal Indians would say, as long as Kashmiris; but I’ll leave it at “if”) do not feel they are Indian, and the desire to be free of the Indian state is strong enough such that it can be called a political aspiration of Kashmir (as it is today), then India has no business in trying to develop Kashmir. It is up to Kashmiris on how they’d like development, and if and how they’d like to use the Indian state’s help. That said, it is not as simple as India just showing itself the way out of Kashmir, for politics and military warfare with Pakistan, whether right or wrong, won’t allow for such a simple solution. I’m not a politician or a bureaucrat, and I don’t know a way out. But I think a way to let Kashmiris be does exist. One of the first things to do would be to get rid of the AFSPA and try to build peace first, but this suggestion is fraught with struggle in India, where the majority (as you point out) considers the army essential to Kashmir.
    One point where I found your article lacking was on Kashmiri Pundits, and this is not just because I’m Indian and annoyed at what happened. I am equally annoyed at what happens everyday in Kashmir too, but I think it is difficult in any communal situation, to paint one side as totally innocent and a third party for creating the suspicions. Indians tried to paint the British that way when there have been Hindu-Muslim riots in India, but the point is really that Hindus and Muslims in India were and are easily incited and do fight harshly over the littlest of incidents. Similarly, it is true that there was angst against the relatively well-off Pundits and they had to flee being a minority, it happens in any minority-majority situation in our subcontinent. It doesn’t make it universal to all Kashmiri muslims, nor does it absolve them as a community. Just as, while Gujarat’2002 doesn’t make every Hindu in India baying for blood, it doesn’t absolve the Hindu community for instigating and perpetrating the riots either. Perhaps, to moderate your point (which I find necessary), I’d add that yes, the exodus and the threat of violence to Kashmiri Pandits by a certain section of Kashmiri Muslims was real, but it doesn’t make all of the state of Kashmir non-secular or every Kashmiri Muslim evil. Kashmiri muslims, as Indian Hindus and Muslims, must be more sensitive to minority rights. But, we in the subcontinent (including Pakistan and Bangladesh) are not all that “developed” that we recognize such matters and give them importance. We are still fighting confused battles between ourselves and sanity is far away. I hope though that it isn’t out of reach.

    • Leena said:

      Very well said:) i concur with you on all your points…

  34. Ali wani said:

    Really sad….everybody is pushing his/her opinion and proving there own point. I’m a Muslim a Kashmir and I believe deep down be a good man have a good heart respect mankind and love the life god has gifted you..stop critisizing each other and start respecting and looking forward for a good and peaceful future..Don’t make this heaven a hell.
    For author: It was a good effort, keep it up.
    For everybody else; stop looking for opportunities to prove others wrong…No one among us was present when these massacres happened so we don’t know exactly what made that hapned.so what has hapned can’t be changed now the time is to change urself and prove that humans/mankind is important than anything else.

  35. shakti dhar said:

    Hi,
    It was a really serious article I ever gone through for kashmir issue on fb. Its really one sided, you have a critical view on the Indian army, but ask to we pundits who had lost everything in that sunami, My father is in indian army he has been shot six times those all six bullets were shot by kashmiri Muslims, I am not here to debete here that your article is right or wrong but no kashmiri pundit has praised you till now this can be eye opener for you. Kashmir is in india and it will be this.is high time to get kashmiri pundits glory back to us we will be back, because that’s my motherland and soon this article 370 will rest in peace. If you r a journalist do justice to your profession take journalism as your religion. Don’t try to impose your own thinking. We are not broken yet

  36. Adil Rashid Lone said:

    You gave me a ground to talk with the people and bring them on common ground, Thanks to Allah i was in search of such info from last many Years.

    jazak’Allah

  37. Ashok said:

    As a famous poet put it ” Umr bhar Galib bhool yehi karta Gaya , Dhul chehre pe thi aur aayina saaf karta Gaya “

  38. aliya manzoor said:

    Maria.. I really appretiate your words. Its a well written article and keep writing these articles. Might be someday it will help India to solve the issues in Kashmir. All the best.

  39. Piyush Soni said:

    “Pakistan, which is an important party to Kashmir dispute, has undoubtedly been providing moral and diplomatic support to Kashmir’s freedom struggle since its inception in late ’80s. Even if it doesn’t admit, its military trained thousands of Kashmiri militants – both nationalistic and pro-Pakistan – and provided them with ammunition to fight Indian forces.”

    This your opinion about Pakistan??? Get your facts right first of all. It was Pakistan who attacked J&K for accession just after Independence and still occupying Gilgit and Baltistan. Moreover Gave away Shaksgam Valley to their friendly neighbor China to help them consolidate their position against India. Secondly, make your self aware regarding its importance to every Indian, 1.25 Billion of them. It has for long protected India from foreign intrusion and will continue to do so for till humanity exist on this world. It is the source of rivers that have been giving us life, irrigating our fields, provides rain to every inch of India through monsoons and westerly disturbance . Kashmir does not belongs only to you and Kasmiri Pandits but to each and everyone of us. Kashmir is as much ours as any other part of India is yours. Every inch of it from Dafdar to Indira Point and guhar Moti to kibithu is ours. Love it, respect it, care for it and die for it.

    If you think Pakistan is morally right in supporting Militants then why don’t they admit? Why does not they say that, yes, they are providing training and ammunition to Militants? And if they are so much concerned about Kashmir’s freedom then why don’t they let go of NWFP (Khyber Pakhtunkhwa). Why did they occupied our peaks in the summers of 99? If you can’t respect India’s integrity, at least do not support Pakistan’s views. Besides, I do not think you are slightly aware of happenings in Pakistan. And you must know that Pakistan is a failed state. Just once it could transfer power peacefully to another civil Government in its existence. Its own people are dying every day by your loved Militants in the streets of Pakistan. Shia Muslims are being killed every day in NWFP. What good they could do to others when they can’t do any good to their own people. And you, certainly, are lucky to born in India administered Kashmir else either you would have never seen the gates of scool or would have been shot down like Malala by Militants. And most importantly, do not forget that People in Indian armed forces have families too. They are the one protecting each and every one of us while staying at bone freezing temperature of Siachin and oven hot thar. Respect their commitment and stop supporting terrorists.

    • ab qayoom said:

      It seems Piyush is excessively obsessed with feeling of ulta-nationalism, he is forgetting the facts that on the basis of nationalism notorious Indian forces are inflicting worst kind of atrocities ranging from killing innocent people to raping the women. For every Indian the concept of nationalism is to support rather to indulge (directly or indirectly ) in the massacre of kashmiris, these people don’t have the tolerance to face the truth…..

    • lockeed said:

      dude according to your logic india was as much of firangis as it was ours cuz it gave them spices. cheap labour, huge markets and strategic benefit among other benefits. be it Baluchistan or kashmir its the people of the region who should decide with whom they want to live, occupying and forcing people of a region to live with yourself just because you need their natural resources and strategic geographical position is forceful occupation and last time i checked we have moved past the imperialistic era, Also it has never been the Indian way because we have our self suffered the wrath of imperialism.

    • anuj said:

      why is no one questioning interest of Pakistan in kashmir’s freedom…is it on humanitarian basis..come on…they are not able to provide human rights to their own people why would they be paying so much money and effort for a 3rd country?…are people in pakistan occupied kahmir in better condition than on indian side.. would you mind writing on their condition and sufferings as well…its easy to blame India and hindus for all the suffering of Muslims in this country but isn’t this an easy escape than to look deeper and figure out where are the fundamental problems in you guys??

      kashmir or no kashmir…muslims are india are in much better condition than anywhere else in the world and they will get better if they become more open and join the main stream rather than continue being a political toy and looking for special treatments…hope this makes sense.

  40. Rahul said:

    If only humans believed that there was one God, there would be one view on this article. Unfortunately, our surnames are deciding our view on the article. God bless Kashmir.

  41. lockeed said:

    Its funny even how our views are divided just based on our religion, just read the name and you can anticipate what comment you are gonna read. About the Article i think its definitely a bit biased but not very much, Also i think Pakistani militants and religious extremism which for sure is prevalent in Kashmir (as it is present else where in India also) created a hysteria which resulted in mob mentality making a normal Kashmiri believe that exodus of pandits is good for the struggle. When we Kashmiris blame India for being insensitive towards our problem we should also bash Pakistan for stoking the fire all the time. The only solution that i see to the problem is that we accept that India (Kashmir included) is a religiously intolerant state (i am not talking about Pakistan because i don’t see any hope for it in near future) Hindus and Muslims living in India (i am talking about majority of them not all of them) are the major culprits of this intolerant behavior, so we need to educate ourselves that how idiotic it is to be fighting over religion in the 21st century. May be some day we realise that Muslim God in not Better than a Hindu God and a Hindu God is not better than Muslim God, we can solve the problem of Kashmir along with many other problems.

    • Ashok said:

      I do not agree with your statement regarding India being intolerant to minorities. Muslims in India were just 20 million at the time of partition are today 200 million. All minorities have prospered in Hindu majority state. In Kashmir Hindus were 5% at the time of partition reduced to 0.01% in 1990’s. still we were kicked out. Credit goes to Kashmiri Muslims who did not massacre us enmass & allowed us to leave without major casualties. Look at the progress of Kashmiri Muslims , they are more prosperous than rest of India & enjoy major concessions. Can u tell me what is the state of minorities in Pakistan? To quote a Buddhist monk from Burma who said in case of majority population of Muslims there will be massacre of Buddhists. This article shows only one community in good light rest are demons.

      • lockeed said:

        Dear Ashok, i agree with you when u say muslims (majority of them) are intolerant and pakistan is one of the most intolerant states in the world, but also believe an average Indian Hindu is as as intolerant as an average Indian muslim. muslims have massacred hindus i agree but hindus have massacred muslims and sikhs you have to accept that too, like i said brother we have to accept our intolerant behavior. Yes hindus were killed in kashmir, but also sikhs were killed in punjab and muslims were killed in gujrat (and serioulsy dude the guy who couldn’t save the riots from happening is now PM of our country doesn’t even this ring any bell, not that i am saying he organised it all but he should have been able to keep the damage to a bare minimum which he wasn’t able to do and he should not have been allowed to continue his political career after that blunder leave alone making him a PM, can you think of any other civilized country where a person under whose rule such a disastrous episode has taken place ends up being the head of the state in today’s world?) now when u say about population increase of muslims in india well lots of it is due to illiteracy and not minority freedom, (if you know what i mean 😉 ) talk about education level and prosperity of muslims in general in india plz dont take kasmiris as minority case cuz they r not minority in there own state so no wonder if they get good education and prosperous lives etc. talk about muslims of delhi and UP or other states fr that mater.
        My point is neither the Muslims nor the hindus can and should try to play moral high ground, we are an intolerant nation its just the way we are and we have not been able to evolve with time at the pace we should have. But we can try to educate the masses but first we need to accept our flaws and need to overcome them. Jai Hind.

        • Ashok said:

          Dear Friend, Gujrat had a long history of communal violence . Mohamad Gaznavi invaded Somnath temple 17 times looting & plundering gujratis for Mall-e- Ganimath in terms of gold & women. I am sure this would have been deeply affected gujrati psyche. In godra 59 people were burnt alive in train bogey. The response though disproportionate has ensured that peace is prevailing in the state. Our friendly neighbor first instigated Sikhs & then Kashmiris against their own country. What followed is well known. Today Pakistan has ensured that there is leadership vacuum in Kashmir. Maulvi Farukh, Abdul gani lone etc were exterminated so that no local leader could influence the public opinion. History has been distorted .no body remembers the atrocities , rapes & killings carried out by kabilies (modern day Taliban) during 1947 . I remember that women folk used to be sent on roof , so that they could commit suicide in case kabilies entered the house. Today such people are Heros in Kashmir. The valley used to be full of Europeans , American tourists, now they are rarely seen. Inspite of all the sufferings I got from kashmiri Muslims , I have good Muslim friends now in India . I also helped few with jobs & education. India is a beautiful country & it’s people are the best in the world.

          • lockeed said:

            Dear Ashok, I once again agree with you views on Kashmir and pakistan, but just bcuz mughals and foreign barbaric rulers invaded or looted our country some 1000 years ago we can not say that those incidents are deeply rooted on our psyche and any action justified by that logic. India is a good country and indian are good people but can u deny that it is one of the many countries where they still kill in the name of God. Kasmiris are not bad ppl they are confused they also have witnessed violence from Pakistan sponsored terrorism and violence leashed upon them by the indian security forces they have been manipulated by separatists and believe me it is much more recent then Gazhnavi invading gujrat! I myself am n Atheist but i have many friends who are hindu muslims etc etc but i have seen them turn against one another like they never knew each other in case of even the smallest religious rift, just because of the communal divide and religious intolerence. That is why i say there is a big need of trying to propagate religious tolerant behaviour atleast in the coming generations. People like mirwiaz, geelani, zakir naik, Modi, praveen togaria ets ets should not have any following at all. Hope i have cleared my point and we can find some common ground to agree upon. Thanks.

  42. Shahid Amin said:

    These people will keep on praising thr army becoz thr loved ones have not been killed.We r helpless but God is looking & he will tke our revenge…

  43. mir faisal said:

    Very objective article indeed. Have read something that takes on indian people head on after a long time. Kudos to the intellect of the author for coming up with a myth buster which was badly needed. I wish and hope this objectivism and sense of purpose stays in future from not only the writer but others who wish good for kashmir.

  44. Manuj Bahl said:

    Amateurish attempt with intention to justify all what went wrong in last 2 decades, too simplistic approach, full of factual errors rather misusing of it to justify the so called struggle of freedom, Author have very conveniently suppressed the facts what happened in and around the exodus of kashmiri pandits,had it been a attempt to tell the truth, real truth would have proven kashmirayat was massacred by the muslims of valley in 1989,though there can’t be any other truth that they themselves(muslims)been the biggest sufferers.

    • Shahid Amin said:

      Maria one thing is clear from the comments which I have read that most of them have got problem with ònly òne of ur points and all of them know deep inside that indian security forces have committed grave attrocities here…

    • Saifullah said:

      Mister Manuj Bahl, not only are u blind with hatred, but u tend to remain arrogant even when the truth is infrint of u… People like u are the real garbage of the society.

    • Asthes said:

      I don’t understand why would you say so about Kashmiri Muslims. I think it’s because you are not suffering. I am doing my journalism doctorate and I have been researching about Kashmiri pandits and the migration.
      First of all there are still 11 percent of Hindu families living in valley. I have talked to them and everyone is stating that no body came up to them stating we will kill you or harm you if you didn’t leave valley.
      Secondly I have been to many camps or places outside valley to meet pandits who migrated. Most of them stated that no body came up to them to harm them it was governor at that time who stated that Kashmiri pandits are in danger and they need to leave valley asap otherwise government will not guarantee there safety. So no pandit houses were surrounded by Muslims. Even though few people stated that there were incidents that led them to flee valley. I checked with there neighbours and the nearest police station where they used to live in Kashmir and surprisingly at most places found Kashmiri pandits still living there. On talking to these pandits, found they have always been talking

  45. Ishfaq Khaliq said:

    I think the writer is aware of more facts and myths but i am puzzled why she has not written them all here…i hope in future u will continue to write such articles….any way nice understadable platform for indians if they will read this article..

  46. tariq said:

    very well researched and well written article, I hope it provides enough information to the hawks in Indian thinktank who are hell bent to abrogate article 370.

  47. ILYAS KASHMIRI said:

    Myths or facts dont care about nuthin…. idunno abou others Imma talk my mind,, I support Kashmirs’ freedom or collab with Pakistan.. I think such cuz much blood of my dear ones (kins/frnds/neighbours) has been shed in this regard,,

    What wud YU do if yur brother got Tortured for life, yur sister – Raped n murdered, yur children – Slaughtered ..
    Right Infront Of Yur Damn Eyes.!!!????

    but i have got no beef with yu innocent .. reader (yu be hindu/christian/sikh etc) iwont kill yu or hold a grudge against yu .. everyone is welcomed to visit Kashmir.. have a lovely stay in our hearts here..
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  48. Satender Sajwan said:

    Woooh…..after reading this article I m getting a feeling that yes Indians have done injustice with Kashmir we should just need to liberate kashmir and wait and watch how it function. It’s okay if outsiders are not allowed to take land in kashmir but why you guys are not ready to accept kashmir as an Indian state. What kind of freedom you are looking for, that kashmir will become Pakistan’s part. If this had been in my controll i would have let that happen and waited for kashmir to seek India’s help again. Coz India knows even if we free Kashmir it will not be able stand and will become terrorism hub for Pakistan. Why the hell India putting there best of shoulder for the protection of people who don’t have respect for them. The amount of life kashmiri people have lost more then thrice of that Indian mothers have lost there sons for protecting you guys out there.

    • Silent Judge said:

      Satender Sajwan- Very Well Said Brother… These guys dont understand or talk about so many people from Kashmir living in various other parts of india happily. According to them Kashmir would have been a much better state if it was not under India. Come on guys please realise the ground reality. If you think Pakistan as Saviour of Kashmir, that will be the biggest mistake of your life. Neither it will allow you to function as Independent State as well. Even if you dont respect Indian Army for the lives lost, atleast dont criticize them.

  49. vinod said:

    TOTAL BAIS VIEW ON MIGRATION OF WE PUNDITS.IS IS NOT TRUE ON 19 TH JAN MUSLIM SOCALLED BROTHERENS TERRORISED WHOLE NIGHT,KASMIR MAY RAHNA HA ALLAH O AKBAR KAHNA HA,THEN THE KILLING OF INNOCENT PUNDITS AND THE HIT LISTS.STILL U SAY WE WERE TAKEN OUT ON SOME PLAN,THAT IS ABSURD.THE WRITER IS ADVISED TO COME OUT OF THE EXTREMIST SHELL,SEE THE GROUND REALITY AND THEN COMMENT.

  50. shiv nath said:

    The article has too many presumptions and actually suffers from factual imbalance. I cannot understand how Jagmihan was responsible for the exodus. it can be said that he failed to prevent it. But did he really support the exodus of pandits? The pandits had to flee because they were aware of the ground realities prevailing at that time which they have talked about in various interviews which are there for everyone to see. Also the indian army has also been falsely accused as a propaganda by the militants who are the real culprit s.

  51. Rohit Kashmiri said:

    Complete bogus….I know of so many kashmiri pandits (family included), sikhs and christians and buddhists from LEH who want to remain an integral part of India. The struggle is basically for an islamic state as kashmiri muslims cannot cohabit with non-muslims. they can only beg for secularism when in minority but will go for the kill (sharia) when in majority…..typical pakistan like behavior….
    Can u promise us a secular kashmir if it gets independence?????

    • shiv nath said:

      Rohit… i think you are bang on with what is happening out here in kashmir. Its all because of religion. A wolf in sheep’s clothing.

    • The_Misfit said:

      They say in India people have got opinions for every thing whether they know anything about it or not and yes, the less they know more and more the opinions they seem to have.

  52. Altaf Hussain said:

    I must appreciate your effort to expose five myths Indian have about Kashmir. Your write up is mostly based on facts and i will encourage you to dig deep to find more myths and misconception Indian,s have about Kashmir. God bless you

  53. Jimmy said:

    Ashok, most Kashmir people I know believe that Jagmohon was responsible for the exodus of pandits.

  54. Ishan Verma said:

    dear writer, i respect your efforts and views but it seems as if you have made a verdict rather than a debateful suggestion. well i belong to district poonch( j&k), which is a muslim majority and also posesses the same AFSPA that you have in kashmir but still don’t find any problems in day to day life. so why is it that the problem exists only in Kashmir???

    as far as article 370 is concerned i support your view but we both live in J&k and its not kashmir only… waiting for ur reply..

  55. Ashok said:

    Totally biased view. You should have restricted yourself to justify activities by your community. Please don’t give ur opinions on the ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Pandits , we know exactly about the reasons why we left.the exodus was not due to Jagmohan but on our own we left the Valley full of Satans. We will not go back to the devils abode where u stone dead bodies & cut women on bandsaws.

    • Gus said:

      Then don’t go back to India where they gut open pregnant women and burn innocents. Are you really trying to play the moral high ground? Try a dose of reality. A simple google of Indian atrocities will show you all that you need to know.

      • Ashok said:

        I am staying away from Kashmir since 26 years. India is a country with rich culture. It is multicultural & people are tolerant of all religions (similar to Kashmir before the Islamic revolution in 90’s). You keep on harping only on one Gujarat incident. Infact Muslims of India are the most peaceloving & hardworking people I have seen unlike those from Kashmir & Pakistan who are into terror related activities on daily basis.

  56. Maria said:

    Thanks everyone. @Shahid You are right there are thousands of reasons to justify why Indian forces in Kashmir are not saviours of the populace. In fact, Indian rules Kashmir through the presence of more than half a million men. Kashmir, according to Guinness Book of World Records, is world’s most militarised zone. Had they not been ruling Kashmir through its forces, they didn’t need half a million troopers to fight 100-odd militants. I deliberately chose not to include such things in the write-up because I wanted to provoke Indians to research more about it.

    • Shahid Amin said:

      Maria I too believe in dialogue on every issue but what I have found on fb by discussing with indians is that either the fb users are not that well informed or they dont care about us…

  57. Anayat said:

    ….And one biggest myth
    Kashmir is Integral part of Idia !!!

  58. Shahid Amin said:

    Hi, I must say that it was a good article but your fifth myth regarding the Indian forces doesnt fully show the attrocities done by them on kashmiris, u could have used more strong words…God bless u…

  59. Arif said:

    Maria! Truely a fantastic writeup, the article witnesses the amount of research you have undergone, the understanding developed thereafter and the rationale applied to present. It gave me the feeling as to what really happened in the past. Wish to read more from you.

    Cheers!

  60. shuja peerzada said:

    Wonderful …highly appreciable.great job .

  61. Nazia said:

    Wonderful piece of article that caught my eye after a long time..kept me hooked till the end. Wish to read more from you Maria

    Well done

  62. Owais Khan said:

    Good Work !! All d best, I really enjoyed reading this !!……

  63. Maria said:

    Thanks for appreciating my ‘efforts’. Yes, we need to talk about all the goons, as you rightly mentioned. Having said that this article tries to focus on the myths Indians have on Kashmir, and it was not possible to incorporate everything in this article. And by the way, militants, whether good or bad, are terrorists for Indians.The idea of the article is to bust the myths Indians have about Kashmir. Yes, I have mostly focused on Kashmir because it is where real, bad things have happened.

    • vincent said:

      ” And by the way, militants, whether good or bad, are terrorists for Indians”. Do you believe militants are good or that militancy in any form can be a good thing for society?

      • Mohammad kazim said:

        vincent by the way it was the people of Kashmir who were fighting for there right,fighting for atrocities by Indian army, they were freedom fighters not militants or terrorists,if you visit Kashmir you will find at least 1 member missing in every family who killed them it was Indian army on the name of terrorism,if fighting for freedom is terrorism then freedom fighters of India are also terrorists —————————————–

        • nathan said:

          Kashmir is not only for muslims, pundits are the original inhabitants of kashmir.

          • Saifullah said:

            Nathan, i think u zionists shud remain away from the matters of muslims… all u zionists want the one world order… thats not happening.

        • Shamim said:

          Kazim, i don’t know if you are Kashmiri or not or if you lived in the valley for the last two decades or not. If you know, a lot of these so called militants joined the militant groups for their selfish gains. And the fact is that Indian Army killed so many of innocent Kashmiris, yet these militants did the same. A lot of them were terrorists per se.

    • Ashan Dhar said:

      Factually you are totally incorrect…I used to think Journalists are the most neutral people in the world but you proved me wrong because you chose your religion and your community…..that’s sad…If you ever get sometime ..come to Delhi i would like to discuss everything,,You can make the other people fool not the real victims and natives of Kashmir valley (Pandits)……

      • MAK said:

        Mr. Dhar, i believe Aditya Raj Kaul, Correspondent, TIMES NOW is the most neutral journalist world wide.
        We empathize your grief but talking as if others don’t know anything does not give you an edge. So let us
        all be neutral about the facts and pray for peace and harmony.

      • Sneha Thusoo said:

        Thanks Ashan for that…. what we lost and how we lost it needs no proof, certificate or authentication from any politician, religion or for that matter any individual….all I know today is that it takes me time to reply when someone, who asks me where I originally belong to… I lost my home, my identity of being called a Kashmiri and that is it..

  64. Syed Inam Qadri said:

    Hi
    I must appreciate your efforts you have put in to write this write piece. Although, it seems factually correct but your justifications are not enough to explain the situation holistically. A simple example is that you have talked about Kashmir only not about the state as whole, which is enough to prove that there should have been better emotional balance. There must be a rational and futuristic approach.
    On exodus of pandit brothers from valley. There is no deny that it us a black spot on kashmiriyat.
    Also u have criticised the Indian army, although I am not justifying the evil acts done by them, but we must also talk about the goons and militants who equally responsible for sufferings of Kashmiris (both Hindu and Muslims)

    So I request you to kindly balance your view.
    Regards

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